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doberman vs rottweiler

Kiloteague

Well-Known Member
Dobermans were the first dog I came into contact with when I was a youngster. My Uncle bred them almost 30 years ago. Then he moved to Rottweilers and bred them. I got a puppy and it was our first dog. We had to give it back 2 years later because she was a terror. It was all our fault as we had no idea how to train a dog. I was in 5th grade and my parents got it from my uncle for me. I ended up being the dogs lil brother and it punked me all the time. It loved me, but she punked me too.

Anyway, as an adult I got a Rott and a pit. The Rott is by far the best dog Ive owned. Ive owned 3 pits and a Rott and its not even close. My pits were big lovers. My Rott was an even bigger lover, but his guard mentality and his smarts were to die for. He knew when I was getting off the phone by my tone of voice and hed start to get excited. That dog was so in tuned to me. I'd let him outside at 1-2 am and hed stay in the yard and do his business and patrol. 30min later id hear a scratch on the door and it would be him asking to come back in. Fell asleep a couple of times and woke up in the morning after leaving him outside all night long in a regular neighborhood too and I'd run to the front door and hed be there waiting for me.

Get a Rott, show it tons a love, and I guarantee you, you will not be happier. If you know what your doing, as far as how to discipline a dog, you will be super happy with a good Rott. Doberman may be just as great, but I know from experience that a good Rott is basically as good as it gets.
 

Primehns

Well-Known Member
A well bred Doberman is not a breed to mess with, these are the European lines, some people call them "Warlocks".
[video=youtube;s6tSTuG3wiY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6tSTuG3wiY[/video]


And a rottweiler:
[video=youtube;uonw6xaijiY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uonw6xaijiY[/video]
 

taraann81

Well-Known Member
I think Id prefer to own a Dobe, I just find thwm more intimidating looking and around here Rotts are SO common....bordering on lab popularity. The dobe and perhaps the beauceron, are the only 2 breeda that if I owned I would want to crop eara. I prefer most breeds with a natural ear.
 

Primehns

Well-Known Member
I think Id prefer to own a Dobe, I just find thwm more intimidating looking and around here Rotts are SO common....bordering on lab popularity. The dobe and perhaps the beauceron, are the only 2 breeda that if I owned I would want to crop eara. I prefer most breeds with a natural ear.
taraaan yeah i would agree, i would probably say that a well bred rottweiler is probably the best guard dog and has a stronger jaw, but the European doberman's are really intimidating, and it's hard to get a Euro doberman. Most are smaller and slender, and don't look nearly as intimidating. The video i posted was of European doberman's, and the video of the Rottweiler i posted, really doesn't do him justice. A rottweiler is about an inch shorter than a male doberman, and is often heavier like mike said, probably by 20 pounds maybe lil more.
 

Asfad

Well-Known Member
taraaan yeah i would agree, i would probably say that a well bred rottweiler is probably the best guard dog and has a stronger jaw, but the European doberman's are really intimidating, and it's hard to get a Euro doberman. Most are smaller and slender, and don't look nearly as intimidating. The video i posted was of European doberman's, and the video of the Rottweiler i posted, really doesn't do him justice. A rottweiler is about an inch shorter than a male doberman, and is often heavier like mike said, probably by 20 pounds maybe lil more.
European dobermans are not just intimidating they are far better guard dogs than rotts.I have a rott but it is slow compared to my uncles dobe.Dobes are also more intelligent and they are more athletic.They can jump very high and i've even saw a warlock dobe around 120lbs jumbed and went through a 6 to 7 feet wall.You can not outrun a dobe.But when a rott get's you you are good as dead.They have one of the strongest bite force.I just love rotts.
 

Asfad

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to note:

Both Rottweilers & Dobermans *ARE* Molosser breeds if I remember correctly.

Not all Molossers are mastiffs. I think there may be a few sheep dogs that are molosser as well as bull dogs etc.
well roots are molosser breeds,but dobe's have molosser ancestory and they are now not seen as molosser breeds.
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
I seriously doubt that they are mixing Dobies. The people that are into the Doberman are very elitist just like us Mastiff people and we abhor the idea of mixing in a new temperament, new genetic defects, and structure changes to our breeds. Being someone that has raised Dobermans, Pit-bulls, other pure breeds and mutts I would say that the warlock just comes from breeder selection. You breed your biggest to the biggest to the healthiest then the biggest then back to the healthiest until you get this big healthy dog. Good breeding practice it breed big to the middle dog then from that litter middle to a middle. Never small to small and big to big.
 

Haley15

Member
Hey mike do a web search from what I'm reading warlocks are just byb scam.i was on dobe forum and people were getting thrashed for saying they had warlocks.also there was a ch borong of warlock but he was average size and mild temper that was bred often
 

Asfad

Well-Known Member
I seriously doubt that they are mixing Dobies. The people that are into the Doberman are very elitist just like us Mastiff people and we abhor the idea of mixing in a new temperament, new genetic defects, and structure changes to our breeds. Being someone that has raised Dobermans, Pit-bulls, other pure breeds and mutts I would say that the warlock just comes from breeder selection. You breed your biggest to the biggest to the healthiest then the biggest then back to the healthiest until you get this big healthy dog. Good breeding practice it breed big to the middle dog then from that litter middle to a middle. Never small to small and big to big.
Yes they are actually purebreed dobes.Most are breed under FCI standards.Small and thin dobes are breed with AKC standard in mind.Thats why european dobes and great danes are stockier than their american cousins.
 

Asfad

Well-Known Member
Hey mike do a web search from what I'm reading warlocks are just byb scam.i was on dobe forum and people were getting thrashed for saying they had warlocks.also there was a ch borong of warlock but he was average size and mild temper that was bred often
Well they maybe don't know much about european dobe's.Some breeders don't follow any of the standard's as mike said thats why their dobes are extra large.That doesn't always mean they are not dobe's.It is all down to you which kind of dobe do you want.A show dobe that follows AKC standard or a working dobe that follows FCI standards.
 

Asfad

Well-Known Member
A well bred Doberman is not a breed to mess with, these are the European lines, some people call them "Warlocks".
[video=youtube;s6tSTuG3wiY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6tSTuG3wiY[/video]


And a rottweiler:
[video=youtube;uonw6xaijiY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uonw6xaijiY[/video]
I agree with you that some people call them warlocks.And they are the only dobe's that have power and temperment to protect it's family.
 

Asfad

Well-Known Member
I don't support dog fight but asking this question for curiosity.I've seen many videos on youtube rott's fighting pit's,bullterrier,bulldogs etc.But almost all the time the rott wins and finishes the fight quickly.But illigal fighters prefer pits over rott's.Why so?And were dobe's also used in fighting like rott's?
 

dheepakh

Well-Known Member
Dobe gives a scissor bite and rottie will almost bite to the bone. Just kidding. Both dogs are very good. Especially dobes have good lifespan when coming from good lines and also it might work in a wrong way in judging longevity when it comes from a bad line due to dilated cardiomyopathy. I have seen dobies died very early say like 5 years old. Rotties will be ok having a good lifespan of 10-12 years in most cases. Research the lines and choose wisely.
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
I don't support dog fight but asking this question for curiosity.I've seen many videos on youtube rott's fighting pit's,bullterrier,bulldogs etc.But almost all the time the rott wins and finishes the fight quickly.But illigal fighters prefer pits over rott's.Why so?And were dobe's also used in fighting like rott's?

Because dog fighters are stupid idiots that don't know their @ss from a hole in the ground. That being said how would they know which dog is better suited to the task.
The Rott has a bite strength over 320lbs and a Pit just around 235lbs.
 

ruby55

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to note:

Both Rottweilers & Dobermans *ARE* Molosser breeds if I remember correctly.

Not all Molossers are mastiffs. I think there may be a few sheep dogs that are molosser as well as bull dogs etc.
Believe it or not, boxers are also considered molossers. I think it also has something to do with skull size & shape; pretty boxy heads.
 

Tiger12490

Well-Known Member
I don't support dog fight but asking this question for curiosity.I've seen many videos on youtube rott's fighting pit's,bullterrier,bulldogs etc.But almost all the time the rott wins and finishes the fight quickly.But illigal fighters prefer pits over rott's.Why so?And were dobe's also used in fighting like rott's?


Rottweilers are not good fighting dogs because of stamina and gameness also there willingness to bite the ring guy....also dont condone that world...
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Bailey's Mom

Super Moderator
Super Moderator
To much and too many talking about dog fighting - even if everyone says they abhor it. I'm proud of our Rottie and Dobbie, but I wouldn't want them fighting. They protect their families because they love them. Everything else is idle and unhealthy speculation, especially in a Forum that promotes the respect, love and training of Mastiffs.
Where there's smoke, there's fire....
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
Well I am sure my distaste for the activity was pretty noticable. I think those that do it should be thrown in a lions cage to see what it feels like to be ripped to shreds while fighting for their lives.